It's Trump Inc. from WNYC in Propublika. I'm Andrea Bernstein.

Now that Donald Trump's bid for a second term has been rejected by voters and by courts

and by the electoral college, we're left to consider the future of Trump, his business

and his potential legal exposure. There's been a lot of debate about holding Trump accountable

for crimes he may have committed as president. That's not what we're going to talk about today.

Instead, we're going to examine the legal hangover stemming from possible wrongdoing by Trump

and the Trump organization. Some of it from possibly illegal acts from even before he

was elected president. Donald Trump has been involved in thousands of civil suits. Not

long ago, the New York Attorney General found he'd violated New York charity law when he

used Trump Foundation funds for political purposes. But though Trump has been repeatedly investigated,

he's never been charged with a crime. Now he might be.

The Manhattan District Attorney is investigating Donald Trump, his associates and his business.

Because Trump has gone to extraordinary lengths to prevent the DA from examining his tax returns,

there's now a long and public paper trail. We even know some of the specific offenses

the DA is considering, like scheme to defraud and criminal tax fraud.

So I mean, are those serious crimes? Well, are they serious crimes? I wouldn't want to

be charged with one. You know, felonies are serious by definition.

In this episode, I speak with Adam Kaufman. He used to be in charge of prosecuting these

kinds of cases at the Manhattan DA's office. But before we get to that, there's another

investigation that's moving along at a rapid clip, a civil suit by the District of Columbia

Attorney General Carl Racine, charging the Trump organization with breaking charity's

laws.

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