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The New Yorker Radio Hour

Donald Trump’s American Carnage Comes to Washington

The New Yorker Radio Hour

WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

Politics, Arts, News, Wnyc, Books, David, Storytelling, Society & Culture, Yorker, New, Remnick

4.26.2K Ratings

🗓️ 15 January 2021

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Luke Mogelson and Susan B. Glasser report on the convulsions of Donald Trump’s final days in office, an unprecedented second impeachment of a President, and the threat of insurrectionary violence hovering over the entire nation. And a game designer offers insights on how the fantastical, wholly fictional narrative of QAnon has captivated so many people—to such dangerous effect.

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0:00.0

This is the New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker.

0:10.2

Welcome to The New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick. This week, Donald Trump became the first president of the United States to be impeached twice.

0:19.5

He must go. He is a clear and present danger to the nation that we all love.

0:25.9

They want to cancel the president.

0:27.5

Mr. Speaker, we are debating this historic measure at an actual crime scene.

0:32.1

I inform the House of Mr. Blumenauer will vote yes on Aitres 24.

0:36.2

As a member designated by Mr. Liu, pursuant to A3S 8, and informed the House that Mr. Liu will vote yes on H-R-R-24. As a member designated by Mr. Llew, pursuant to A-R-R-8,

0:39.5

and from the House, the Mr. Loo will vote yes on H-Rez-24.

0:43.0

It's yet another unprecedented event in a presidency that has been absolutely full of them.

0:48.6

But Trump's time is coming to an end,

0:50.7

and he leaves to Joe Biden enormous challenges,

0:57.5

the unending death toll of COVID-19 first and foremost,

1:04.1

the economic crisis of the shutdown, the consequences of a four-year assault on democracy and the rule of law, and meanwhile, the Senate will be occupied with the first ever impeachment trial

1:09.4

of a former president.

1:11.5

Susan Glasser is our Washington correspondent. Hi, Susan. How are you?

1:14.8

Hi, David. Thanks so much. We're talking on Thursday morning, and you were inside the Capitol

1:19.1

during the impeachment vote. Can you give us a sense of the mood in the building? What was it like

1:24.8

all around in the, in the lobbies, and the foyers and all the rest?

1:29.4

Well, you know, David, for me, it was really unsettling and jarring. My first job out of college

1:36.2

was working in Washington on Capitol Hill as a reporter for roll call newspaper. And every time

1:43.3

I went into that Capitol, it was a powerful experience.

1:46.7

It is maybe not obvious to those who don't go in there all the time, but it is not just a

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