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In The Dark

Donald Trump, Pete Hegseth, and the Future of American War-Crimes Prosecutions

In The Dark

The New Yorker

True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.728.4K Ratings

🗓️ 22 November 2024

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump’s selection of Pete Hegseth for Secretary of Defense caught the attention of the In the Dark team. Hegseth, formerly a weekend co-host of “Fox & Friends,” is a longtime supporter of accused American war criminals, and has called Eddie Gallagher, the Navy SEAL who was tried for murder and other crimes, a “war hero.” The reporters Madeleine Baran and Parker Yesko discuss what Hegseth’s appointment could mean for war-crimes prosecutions under the Trump Administration. 

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0:00.0

Are you recording?

0:03.3

Yes, I am.

0:04.8

All right.

0:05.8

Let's do it.

0:08.0

Hey in the dark listeners.

0:09.4

It's Madeline Barron.

0:10.6

And Parker Yesco. Hey, guys.

0:12.8

We're back in your feed today because there's been some recent news that feels really relevant to a lot of the things that we reported on in season three.

0:20.0

It has to do with one of the appointments

0:22.1

that incoming President Donald Trump has recently announced. And this appointment got the attention

0:27.7

of our entire team because it could make it even harder for war criminals in the United States

0:32.9

to be held accountable. If you've listened to season three, you know that our reporting found

0:37.4

how hard it is

0:38.3

already for people accused of war crimes to be punished in any kind of meaningful way. And it is most

0:43.5

likely about to get a lot harder. We're talking specifically here about the man Trump has decided

0:49.2

he wants to nominate for Secretary of Defense. This is a man Parker and I are both very familiar with.

0:54.4

We're talking, of course, about Pete Hegseth. And the reason we're so familiar with Pete Hegseth

0:59.4

is because Hegseth has been one of the most outspoken defenders of Americans accused of war

1:05.2

crimes in the entire country. Yeah, and we've been talking a lot on our team about what his

1:09.8

hypothetical confirmation could mean for convicted war criminals and American service members accused of war crimes in the future.

1:18.7

In a certain point, we thought we should stop talking about it just between us and talk about it with you guys, too.

1:25.1

Right. So that's what we're going to talk about today. Donald Trump,

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