Hi, this is Sarah in Denver, Colorado, where I just finished putting up 1,000 five digits of pie in our house to celebrate my favorite holiday.

Pie Day.

This podcast was recorded at 1-09 PM on 3-14 Pie Day, that is Tuesday, March 14.

Things may have changed by the time you hear it, but hopefully you can enjoy a slice of pie with friends like we will be doing.

Okay, here's the show.

I can't go very far. It's like 3.1415, then I'm toast.

And I can definitely eat pie. Hey there, it's the NPR Politics podcast. I'm Tamer Keith. I cover the White House.

I'm Mara Liesen, National Political Correspondent.

And we are joined by reporter Ilya Maritz, who has been covering former President Donald Trump's legal troubles for NPR.

Hey there.

Hi.

So this is something that liberal talking heads have been predicting for at least five years, but this time it actually may happen.

Donald Trump could soon be indicted in New York.

Manhattan District Attorney, Alvin Bragg's office has invited the former President to testify before a grand jury this week.

And Ilya, you have been following this.

And this actually means something being invited to testify before a grand jury, a group responsible for recommending charges,

is typically a last step before a criminal indictment, is that right?

Yes, in the state of New York that would usually signal that a grand jury process is winding up.

And either there will be an indictment or possibly not.

We don't know precisely what this case is about, but there's been just like a flurry of activity over the last month or two.

People seen going in and out of the courthouse, hope Hicks, Kylian Conway, David Pecker,

the former publisher of the National Enquirer, and those names and the rumor mill are starting to help us build a picture of what the charges possibly could be.

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