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You are pretty slick. So I will accept your praise. Did you realize you were going to be a podcasting authority when you grew up? You know, I did not know that this age I would be reading ads for Miundis. but I've embraced it

I've embraced the Miundis

and I've embraced the ad model

it's kind of I have to say as a listener

I don't usually skip the podcast ads. It's kind of fun to hear our different people do them. And we're at the stage of the industry. I mean, not to jump too far in right away, but I think we're at the stage in podcasting, where everybody who loves podcasting is rooting for everybody who's supporting podcasting.

So there's this curious but fairly intense goodwill towards the sponsors.

Yeah, the standard analogy, right, is we're blogging in 2004 or 2005 where there's sort of a small crowd.

People are making it, a slightly larger crowd, people listening to it.

It seems very exciting.

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