From KCRW, Santa Monica and KCRW.com, this is The Treatment.

Welcome to the treatment. I'm Elvis Mitchell.

I'm Elvis Mitchell. Honor of you sitting across from a gentleman who you may know from any number of guys is,

Jay and the Americans, or Ultimate Spinnich, or Steely Dan,

or one of my favorites for a Rock and Soul Review,

where I saw him chuckling as Michael McDonald's sang about shoes.

That's probably right, yeah.

Thank you very much for that.

I'm glad you were there.

That was a great name.

My guest, by the way, is Donald Fagan, who's a collection of his essays from Slate and from Premier Magazine called Eminent Hipster is now in paperback.

First of all, thank you so much for being here.

My pleasure.

One of the things I really loved in the book, and I could almost, it took me back to the nightfly was you're writing about Henry Mancini.

And that was almost Proustian that writing about Mancini.

Oh, thanks.

Is that good or bad, I think?

I think in this case, let's assume it's good.

Maybe a little too navel gazing.

No, no, no, no, no.

That's for the kids in Brooklyn, not you. I think that when you're talking about that sort of, Blake Edwards sort of opening up this kind of training his camera eye on the luxe of the era.

Yes.

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