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Don, Til Musk

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4.6 • 1.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 January 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Multiple developments over the holiday break raise real questions about who will call the shots in Donald Trump’s still-forming administration. Elon Musk seemed to commandeer aspects of legislative strategy, immigration, and foreign policy. Republicans in Congress seemed to heed Musk over Trump, while leaving Trump wide berth to enrich himself and crack down on his enemies.

In this episode, Matt and Brian discuss:

* How Musk, an unelected immigrant oligarch, built so much sway over the GOP, and why he might be interested in Trump administration policy outside of DOGE and government contracts.

* Is Musk too rich and influential for Republicans too control, or is Trump simply too diminished to head the government and his party simultaneously?

* Whether a MAGA coalition comprising tech billionaires (who support certain categories of immigration) and grassroots nativists (who do not) can long endure.

Then, behind the paywall, what will this mean when it’s time for Republicans to fund the government, increase the debt limit, or enact substantive. Will Republicans, with a historically tiny House margin, be able to pass any meaningful legislation at all? Do they feel they have leeway over the details of policy, so long as they let Trump’s corruption run rampant? What are the tail risks of a corrupt executive branch with no clear leader, checked only by a paralyzed Congress?

All that, plus the full Politix archive are available to paid subscribers—just upgrade your subscription and pipe full episodes directly to your favorite podcast app via your own private feed.

Further reading:

* Brian on Trump, tech weirdos, and the GOP’s seemingly successful quest for cultural dominance.

* Matt on the menace of Trump’s unapologetic political renaissance.

* Norm Ornstein on the mess Trump is preparing to dump on Mike Johnson and the congressional GOP.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Oh, there's an article. There's a very ill-informed Michael Moynihan article complaining about the new Bob Dylan biopic.

0:07.5

I think like Moynihan's just take on this is wrong. He's misreading. Should we talk about a complete unknown?

0:14.4

No.

0:15.1

No.

0:20.6

Hey, everyone, you're listening to a free preview of the politics podcast.

0:24.7

In this episode, we'll talk about some of the things that happened over the holiday break

0:28.8

with a particular focus on the relationship between Elon Musk and Donald Trump.

0:33.8

The schism between Trump's tech billionaire hangers-on MAGA and whether it tells us anything about how Trump will govern when he takes office in a couple weeks.

0:45.5

If you want to hear all of it, you can upgrade your subscription to paid at politics.fm.

0:57.3

Hey, everyone. Welcome to the politics podcast. I'm Brian Boiler.

0:58.5

I'm Matthew Glacius.

1:01.2

Hi, Matt. It's been a while.

1:03.7

Yeah, we haven't recorded in a while.

1:10.3

Lame Duck is always an odd time because formally speaking, nothing has happened.

1:11.2

Yeah.

1:16.0

Um, I was actually going to like fill this space with like, I was going to tease you about,

1:19.0

uh, RSVPing, but then not showing up to my New Year's Eve.

1:23.7

But then you explained why that happened to me during prep and now I feel bad about it. It's tragic. No, it's fine. Um, so, me, I guess, I feel like one thing that has shifted,

1:31.4

we'll talk about some of the specifics, is that, you know, Elon Musk, over the course of calendar

1:37.3

year 2024, started playing a bigger and bigger role in Trump's campaign, you know, both as a donor

1:44.0

and a kind of an

1:44.8

advocate and eventually a surrogate on the campaign trail. But I think that trajectory has really

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