Don't Worry Darling with Payton McCarty-Simas
The Bechdel Cast
iHeartPodcasts
4.6 • 3.4K Ratings
🗓️ 29 January 2026
⏱️ 77 minutes
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Summary
On this episode that feels like an episode, Caitlin, Jamie, and special guest Payton McCarty-Simas talk about the movie that feels like a movie... Don't Worry Darling (2022). Here's the piece we mention, "Don’t Worry Darling Is Peak White Feminism (As Expected)" by Haaniyah Angus -- https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/dont-worry-darling-white-feminism
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.5 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:04.9 | On the Becdocast, the questions asked if movies have women in them. |
| 0:09.8 | Are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands, or do they have individualism? |
| 0:14.5 | The patriarchy's effing vast. |
| 0:17.1 | Start changing it with the Bechdel cast. |
| 0:20.6 | Welcome to the podcast that feels like a podcast |
| 0:23.1 | Where we discuss movies that feel like movies |
| 0:25.8 | Because they are movies and sometimes it's not that complicated |
| 0:29.7 | No |
| 0:31.2 | My name is Caitlin Durante |
| 0:33.2 | My name is Jamie Loftus and we are the podcasters who feel like podcasters because we are podcasters. |
| 0:39.6 | Yes. |
| 0:40.1 | This is the Bechdel cast, a podcast where we take a look at your favorite movies or just movies using an intersectional feminist lens using the Bechdel test as a jumping off point for discussion. |
| 0:55.4 | But Caitlin, what the hell is that? |
| 0:56.9 | I don't remember because I'm being trapped by an in-cell. |
| 1:00.9 | Oh, no. |
| 1:02.2 | Well, it's a mediometric created by our best friend. |
| 1:05.7 | Alison Bechtel first appearing in her comic Dykes to Watch Out for in the 80s. |
| 1:09.6 | It has since become a media metric that is used to determine, do women interact in a movie? |
| 1:19.6 | And if so, do they talk to each other about something other than a man? |
| 1:22.9 | Our version is, do two characters of a marginalized gender, have names, speak to each other, and is the |
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