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Most of us don't start out wanting to be bad communicators in our marriage, but things happen.

What do you do?

I'm John Fuller, joined by Greg and Aaron Smalley, and today we're going to hit the ground running as we hear from Ron and Jan Welch.

They were interviewed on Focus on the Family with Jim Daly, and they shared how Ron wanted a lot of

control in the relationship and what that did to their marriage.

Here's the point.

There's no bashing of anything.

It's just the idea of what is crippling you in your marriage.

That's the concept here.

How can you do better?

If you claim Christ as your savior, we must do better.

And we've got to grow every day. And that's one area reading your book. I'm so proud of the two of you.

You didn't give up on your marriage. You kept fighting even though it took years. But you stuck with it.

And again, there was no physical abuse. You had to weather that,

Jen. You had to endure that for years and we'll get into that. But I just think, speak to the

idea that some women too can be those manipulators, those controllers. It's not a one gender

only area. Sure. It's personality style, right?

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