'Don't make Putin make a point' a Russian warns the West
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🗓️ 31 January 2025
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Nina Khrushcheva, great grand-daughter of the Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev, and Professor of International Affairs at The New School in New York, says the West's response to Putin has strengthened him at home and abroad and warns against provoking him further.
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Guest: Nina Khrushcheva, Professor of International Affairs, The New School, New York.
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| 0:00.0 | From The Times and the Sunday Times, this is the story. |
| 0:06.3 | I'm William Hague. |
| 0:11.4 | The story today, an insider's view of the Kremlin and Putin's next move with Professor Nina Khrushcheva. |
| 0:29.6 | Well, Nina, it's a great pleasure to have you on The Story. |
| 0:33.7 | Introduce yourself for our listeners, for those who haven't heard about you. |
| 0:38.2 | Tell us about who you are, about your name and your job title and where you're speaking to us from. |
| 0:43.5 | Hi, thank you very much for inviting me, Nina Krushcheva. I teach international affairs at the |
| 0:48.8 | New York City, New School University. I am a Russian. |
| 0:54.9 | I was born in the Soviet Union, so sometimes I introduced myself as a Soviet, which I have to say absolutely make people flabbergasted because how dare you think of yourself this way, which is always an interesting reaction. |
| 1:09.6 | That's where you were born. |
| 1:11.0 | That's where I was born in the Soviet Union, exactly, in Moscow. |
| 1:15.6 | And since you ask me about the name, I am a great granddaughter of Nikita Khrushchev, who was |
| 1:21.6 | the head of the Soviet Union, this is the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, from, it's sort of considered |
| 1:30.1 | 10 years from Stalin's death in 1953 to 1964 when Krushchev was ousted from his job and was the |
| 1:39.0 | first Soviet leader that essentially went into retirement but wasn't killed, which he considered his great achievement. |
| 1:46.9 | So here I am and here is my heritage. |
| 1:49.6 | But do you remember him? |
| 1:51.5 | Because you were born, I think, in his last year in office. |
| 1:55.8 | But did you know he? |
| 1:56.7 | He died about seven years later. |
| 1:58.6 | So yes, I never experienced him as a premier as in charge of the Soviet Union, |
| 2:05.1 | but I remember him, of course, as a pensioner. |
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