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This is Recode Media with Peter Kafka. That's me. I'm part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm

laughing because Sarah Lacey is laughing. She's laughing at my at me right now.

I like your radio voice. You like that's her radio voice? It's my voice. Sarah, among other things,

is the CEO of Pando Daily. She's an author most recently of. The uterus is a feature, not a bug.

That's a good title, Sarah. Thank you. You can buy this book immediately as you hear this podcast. As of today. So go buy the book and make Sarah happy. Sarah, I'm going to describe this as part memoir, part manifesto. Language is important. So how do you feel about both those words? Yeah. No, I think that's right. And it's hard to do kind of wrap both of those into a book. The people who said no to this proposal mostly said no, because they were like, I don't know how you're going to do both of those in one book. I was going to make a joke about a uterus, but I'm not going to make a joke about a uterus. So memoir we get, that's part of your life, right? You've done a bunch of things. You've written books before, so this is not your entire life story. It's chunks of it. So we get that part. The manifesto is what? Well, the reason, what drove me to want to do this book, and as you know, because we're in the same industry, the period in which I wrote this book was an incredibly crazy time for me and for my company and my family

and my personal life. But, you know, I felt like I needed to write the book and needed to write it

right then because I was just constantly struck by everything I had been told as, you know, a young

woman, as an adult about what motherhood would do to me and the juxtaposition of what

motherhood actually did to me. And I was, I felt like I was, you know, told for, say, 15 years

of adulthood that I would just completely change. I would become unrecognizable from the person

I was before. This whole talk of this like biological imperative as soon as you hold a baby in your

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