You're listening to Mick Unplugged, hosted by the one and only Mick Hunt.

This is where purpose meets power and stories spark transformation.

Mick takes you beyond the motivation and into meaning, helping you discover your because

and becoming unstoppable.

I'm Rudy Rush, and trust me, you're in the right place.

Let's get unplugplugged.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another exciting episode of Mick Unplugged,

and I'm honored to be sitting in front of someone that I've looked up to for a very long time.

He revolutionized how America accesses

the law by co-founding legal zoom and bringing legal empowerment to millions. He's not only that,

he's a trained thinker, he's a tech visionary and a scale architect. He's helped launch many

businesses and mentor the next wave of entrepreneurs. He's

innovative. He's disruptive. He is relentless. He is my mentor. Mr. Eddie Hartman. Eddie, how you

doing today, sir? Mick, my friend, you are you are too kind. Thank you so much for having me on

the show. I'm honored myself. I appreciate you, like I said, much more than you'll ever know.

And today I want to kind of talk through those things. And, you know, I always ask my guest, what's there because? That thing that's deeper than your why. You know, Simon Seneca said start with your why. And I like to take that a little bit further, right? Like, your why is awesome. Your why is cool. but if i were to ask you but why usually that

sentence starts with well because and i care about what you say from well because so if i were to

say mr hartman what is your because what is your purpose what is your mission today why do you

keep doing the the great things that you do make i, I want people to thrive. I've been an entrepreneur. And here's the thing that nobody tells you. I have been a failed entrepreneur. You talk to anyone and they're going to talk to you about their successes. And of course, you know, that's the sizzle, right? That's what's sexy. What people do not talk about is the failures. I think they should talk about them more. It's very real in entrepreneurship. You know, it's anybody who puts themselves out there, there's always the chance, you know, it's not going to work. The thing is, the discipline that I've been focusing on, the reason we wrote the book is it does not need to be as bad as it is. That is my message. And I'm not, apart from the book, I'm not selling anything.

And I understand I get four pennies for every book sold.

So I'm not even really selling that.

What I want to do is spread the gospel, that you do not have to face the odds, which are daunting,

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