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You were convinced by Bobby Allison to take a job at DiGuard in 1984.

You came down here. Bobby's relationship with the team was deteriorating, and he advised

you to go back home.

And I have to imagine that this relationship with Bobby Allison was one on trust and respect

for him to come to you and go,

he wanted you down here. And then when the situation wasn't what he thought it should be

and it wasn't going to be good for all of y'all, he sort of, it kind of tipped you off, right,

to, hey, man, might want to get out of here go back

and y'all would eventually uh you know reunite so talk about that talk about the the relationship

with bobby the trust for him to come to you and say hey man um this isn't working out this is

about to implode i'd get out of the way,

I'd go take care of yourself and go get where you need to be.

Yeah, that worked out, you know, what it really, what happened there, but like you said, Bobby

and the gardeners were falling out at the time, a little bit of falling out.

And at that time, Robert Gates and Gary Nelson were running a place. And they came up to me with a five-year contract. And I said to Bobby, I says, well, they want a five-year contract, Bobby. What do you want me to do? And Bobby says, go home. He says, go back to Wisconsin. He says, and I'll call you when I'm ready again. You know, I says, okay, Bobby, you know, I appreciate what you done. And I went back. No question. No question. No. Yeah, I mean, I respected that man. You're a guy that's gotten down here with a five-year roadmap in front of you. How do you not take that? A lot of people would have. Nah, because I had the respect for Bobby Allison. Yeah. And if Bobby Allison was getting along with these owners for some reason, you know, you didn't need to be there. Why did I need to be there? Because Bobby brought me down there, you know. So if Bobby left and I'm sitting there and while this was Bobby's guy, maybe ship him out of here too. So I didn't, we all left in good terms, you know. And I, you know, got a trailer, put all my furniture, and me and wife went back up to Milwaukee. And you went up there and that would be the opportunity you'd have to work. Jerry takes you right back. There's like, come on, we've got this deal. we're going to go some race with mark yeah um

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