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Before we get into this week's episode, I wanted to let you know about a special series we have starting next Monday.

Data vampires will dig into the massive data centers

being built around the world to power the AI boom and the other ambitions of these major

tech companies. We'll dig into their climate and other environmental impacts, the people around

the world who are fighting back against these things. And the harmful, threatening ideology

that is powering this vision of the future that so

many of these people in the tech industry are trying to foist on the rest of us. It will provide

an important commentary on the state of the tech industry and why we need to be pushing back

against the world they're trying to create. Data Vampires is a four-part series with new episodes

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Now, this week, my guest is Carl Bode. Carl is a freelance tech journalist and consumer rights

reporter. Now, I'm sure you've seen that Mark Zuckerberg has had something of a makeover. He looks quite different than he did a year ago, and that has reflected in the way that he's been covered and the way that people have been seeing him. I remember seeing some comments earlier this year when he was photoshopped with a beard of people saying that, you know, he actually looked pretty hot, which is weird to think of for somebody who we traditionally know of

with this short haircut and pasty white skin, not your traditional sex symbol or anything like that.

But as a result, I've been kind of frustrated in seeing the way that Zuckerberg and his companies

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