Why are businesses like HelloVet choosing Apple products and services?

So we started the business two years ago.

We had a few people who were used to PCs and this was their first foray into Macs.

But it's been super smooth getting everyone onto those devices and everyone seems really, really happy.

Find out how Mac can help you run and grow your business at Apple.com.

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Welcome to Don't Cop Out.

You show that challenges everything you think you know about public safety.

I'm your host, William C. Anderson.

Thank you. William C. Anderson. Each episode, I'll introduce you to a community safety responder who's leading the charge

and creating alternatives to policing.

Together, we'll debunk common myths about what keeps us safe

and introduce you to people proving that true safety doesn't require a badge or a gun.

Today, I'm speaking with Kat Brooks, co-founder and executive director of Anti-Police Terror Project

and Justice Teams.

Let's get into it.

How are you doing, Kat?

I'm good, William. How you beat?

I'm good. I'm good. I'm really excited about this interview.

I've really been looking forward to learning more about your work and everything that makes the

organization that you co-founded so important. So just to get started right off the bat,

can you tell me a little bit about what anti-police terror project is and why you co-founded it?

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