Don’t Call It a Regime Change
What Next
Slate Podcasts
4.6 • 2.3K Ratings
🗓️ 5 January 2026
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
The Trump administration has a handful of answers to the question “Why did the United States pluck Nicolás Maduro from Venezuela?”—it was for narcoterrorism, or payback, or just oil. They’re even less clear about what’s going to happen with the country now.
Guest: Shane Harris, staff writer covering national security and intelligence for the Atlantic.
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