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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Don't Call Him El Chapo

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate

News, Daily News, News Commentary, Politics

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 31 January 2019

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

Joaquín Guzmán operated in Mexico’s shadows for decades. His trial is shining a spotlight on who the man is and the chaos he sowed on a country . How are Mexicans dealing with the explosive allegations made against former presidents? And what are we all missing by sensationalizing the drug lord's trial? Guest: León Krauze, Columnist for Slate, co-host of Trumpcast, and news anchor for Univision. Tell us what you think by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or sending an email to [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram for updates on the show. Podcast production by Mary Wilson, Jayson De Leon, and Anna Martin. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Dad, I'm hungry!

0:01.6

Right, what do I cook for tea?

0:03.0

Errr, McCain chips. These will be good.

0:05.2

You know they'll come out nice and crispy if you cook them in a rye fryer.

0:08.2

Just say, Alexa, open McCain, and Alexa will help you.

0:12.2

What? You mean if I say Alexa, open McCain, Alexa will open the bag of chips for me?

0:16.4

Not literally open the bag of chips for your dad, but Alexa can tell you how to cook them

0:20.6

and give you ideas for tea.

0:21.8

Ah, okay. Alexa, open McCain.

0:24.6

Well done, Dad. Such a tech wizard.

0:26.6

Chip, chip, hooray.

0:27.8

Crispy air fryer perfection with McCain.

0:34.8

Can I just start with a really basic question?

0:36.6

Like, what do you call El Chapo?

0:38.6

Yeah, that's a great question actually.

0:42.0

Leon Krausa is a Mexican journalist.

0:44.2

He writes for slate reports for Univision.

0:46.4

I try not to call him El Chapo.

0:48.4

I will during our conversation, but I try not to do it because for me,

0:53.4

he does not deserve a nickname.

0:58.4

El Chapo's real name is Joaquin Guzman.

1:01.4

That man does not deserve a nickname.

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