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Hello, and welcome to DSR's Words Matter. I'm David Rothkof. I'm joined this week as every week by the man we really need right now in this moment. That's Norm Ornstein. How are you today, Norm? You don't even have to ask, baby. Well, I feel it's kind of like a running gag at this point. You know, one of these days you're going to go, I'm great and I'm going to fall over dead in my chair.

But, you know, when Stephen Miller, Christy Knoem, Bovino, and Cash Patel, and all the others are brought up in the dock at our Nuremberg.

I will tell you I'm feeling great.

I'm feeling relieved, at least.

Yeah, well, I've no that time, however, I can't promise anything.

Well, I understand.

And frankly, I share your view on that.

I wish other, you know, members of the opposition felt, you know, strongly about this.

And that's what, you know, I sort of want to come to.

You know, once again, we're at one of these weeks where the Venn diagram of all the issues we want to discuss overlaps into a little

space called norm because we have Minneapolis, we have the Congress facing a shutdown and another

debate over, you know, funding DHS and and ice and so forth. And then we have, you know, the righteous indignation that we need and ought to have in the wake of

essentially public executions by gangs of masks thugs on behalf of the President of the United States.

And, you know, you are the place that, that overlap. So let me, let me just

start with a question, you know, the, the president seems to be backtracking a little bit,

saying, well, I want, you know, we're going to, we're going to relax things a little bit there.

And Bovino got fired, but the president said he supports Nome.

Nome says, I was just following orders from the president Miller, and the president

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