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So I don't know much about the Ashley Tisdale mom mama, which is mom drama.

Save the drama for your mama.

I have a daughter and the idea of a mom group sounds terrifying.

Like there have been different moms that along the way I've met and been friendly with,

but it sort of feels like it's very transactional. Like, you're hanging out with them because your

kid is their age. And so, like, you're seeing them at the park and you're talking to them and you're

asking about the costumes or the snacks or whatever. But, like, and yes, I'm sure you could meet

good friends from that. But it's almost like being on a reality show with them. Like, you have

one goal in mind and you're around each other and the same cadence during the same, I don't

know, migratory patterns. and that's why you're friends.

And I think it was Mandy Moore that, like, came in saying that things have changed because

people are at different stages in their life, which makes perfect sense.

I had a horrific, horrendous divorce, and there were some moms that I would even tell about it,

and because I would be with about it and because I would be

with my daughter and there would be a lot of things that were unusual. There would be like no

interacting with another parent or me getting boxed out of any of the parent field trips for

different reasons or just like there was a lot of stuff that like you were telling the body nearest to you. You know, these weren't my best friends. I remember Amy, she was great. I would go over to her house and that we do play dates and she liked to drink a margarita. And like, that's all you really needed. I invited her to some of my parties. I think a skinny girl party. She had fun. She was cool. And I liked her. I enjoyed her. There was another woman.

We weren't totally aligned, but like, she was a warm body and so was I. We'd go take the kids to go to pasta after. I remember, Brin never would want to eat and didn't like to go out to dinner. I was jealous that her daughter loved to go out to dinner because I wanted a child that wanted to like at least sit in a restaurant with me,

you're not going to be best friends with a lot of these people.

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