It's no secret the NFL has a problem with race.

Think Colin Kaepernick.

Think Brian Flores.

But this isn't a new problem.

It's one that started as far back as the 1930s

with a ban on black players in the NFL,

with a past that informs the present.

BlackBald is a new miniseries podcast from the ringer,

about the four men who broke the color barrier

in football.

I'm your host, Chelsea Stark Jones.

You can find BlackBald on the ringer, NFL feed.

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