Domination Is Peace: Trump’s 20 Point Peace Plan for Palestine feat. Dana El Kurd
It Could Happen Here
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🗓️ 21 October 2025
⏱️ 20 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Dana El Kurd examines what we know about the new 20 point peace plan for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, presented by President Trump. This plan helped facilitate a ceasefire in Gaza in the short term, but has dangerous limitations that will impact its success in the long term. This episode outlines the issues with this plan, with comparisons to other conflict resolution mechanisms around the world.
Sources:
Testimonies of Palestinian prisoners - https://www.newarab.com/news/palestinian-prisoners-tell-horrific-rape-israeli-detention
Return of Palestinian bodies - https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/israel-hamas-bodies-hostages-gaza-ceasefire-aid-trump-rcna238128
Greta Thunberg on her experience in Israeli prison - https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/25LgKq/greta-thunberg-they-kicked-me-every-time-the-flag-touched-my-face
20 point peace plan - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c70155nked7o
Board of Peace - https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2025/10/1/trumps-gaza-board-of-peace-promises-tony-blair-yet-another-payday
Jared Kushner Peace to Prosperity Plan - https://www.un.org/unispal/document/peace-to-prosperity-a-vision-to-improve-the-lives-of-the-palestinian-and-israeli-people-us-government-peace-plan/
Hamas on disarmament - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-aims-keep-grip-gaza-security-cant-commit-disarm-senior-official-says-2025-10-17/
Palestinian public opinion on Palestinian Authority - https://www.pcpsr.org/sites/default/files/Poll%2095%20press%20release%206May2025%20ENGLISH.pdf
International Tribunal on Yugoslavia - https://www.icty.org/en/content/slobodan-milo%C5%A1evi%C4%87-trial-prosecutions-case
UN commission of inquiry on the occupied Palestinian territory report - https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/sessions-regular/session60/advance-version/a-hrc-60-crp-3.pdf
Marika Sosnowski on ceasefires - https://theconversation.com/the-gaza-ceasefire-deal-could-be-a-strangle-contract-with-israel-holding-all-the-cards-267208
Palestinians in Gaza killed after ceasefire - https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/10/14/live-trump-signs-gaza-ceasefire-deal-with-leaders-of-qatar-egypt-turkiye
Palestinian child in West Bank killed - http://bbc.com/news/articles/ce8g9p0ppe0o
Palestinian family homes raided - https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/west-bank-israel-raids-homes-prisoners-be-released-Gaza-ceasefire-deal
Netanyahu on Rafah - https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/middle-east/israel-gaza-rafah-crossing-reopening-b2847869.html
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| 1:26.7 | My name is Dana Al-Kurd, and I'm a writer, analyst, and researcher of Palestinian and Arab politics. I'm an associate professor of political science and a senior non-resident fellow at the Arab Center, Washington. |
| 1:33.9 | I'm recording this on October 19, 2025. |
| 1:38.1 | Negotiators from a number of countries and Israel were in Cairo recently, discussing the next phase of the ceasefire agreement between |
| 1:45.5 | Hamas and Israel. Hamas has since released all remaining Israeli hostages, as well as the bodies |
| 1:51.7 | of those who were killed, and Israel has withdrawn from certain parts of the Gaza Strip and started |
| 1:57.3 | to release political prisoners, as well as the bodies of Palestinians who have been killed after they were detained since October 7th. |
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