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🗓️ 28 November 2025
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| 0:00.0 | So one of the things that might confuse people sometimes, and I've heard this before, is they don't |
| 0:04.6 | understand why people stay in an abusive relationship. They'll hear about someone that has been |
| 0:12.2 | in an abusive marriage for 20 years, and they, from the outside, will judge the victim or the survivor and think, why did you |
| 0:24.6 | stay in that relationship for 20 years? And I suppose I used to have a similar judgment before I was a |
| 0:31.8 | therapist. It just seemed very foreign to me. And as I became a clinician and started to learn about domestic violence, |
| 0:41.3 | or they also call it now intimate partner violence, when people are, I started actually working |
| 0:48.4 | with perpetrators and with survivors, and I started realizing that the situation is much more complex than I thought |
| 0:58.5 | it was. And then I started actually realizing how people can actually enter into a cycle, |
| 1:08.1 | is what they call it, of denial and that it goes in various different cycles. And today, |
| 1:14.0 | we're going to talk about that cycle so that people can understand it. And I've brought an expert |
| 1:19.5 | on the show to talk about it. Rebecca Bloom, welcome back to the show. It's always fantastic to be |
| 1:24.8 | here. Yeah. As I've said before, it's great to talk with an actual clinician |
| 1:30.1 | instead of some of the other Yahoo's that I talk to. Where do you find that motley crew? It's just |
| 1:36.2 | amazing. Yeah. This is The Psychology in Seattle podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Kirk Honda. I'm chair of |
| 1:43.2 | the couple and family therapy program at Antioch University Seattle, and I'm also host, Dr. Kirk Honda. I'm chair of the couple and family therapy program at Antioch University, Seattle, and I'm also a licensed sparedia family therapist. |
| 1:49.4 | Hi, I'm Rebecca Bloom. |
| 1:51.0 | I am an art therapist, and I also do somatic-based work somewhere in Seattle. |
| 1:58.4 | Yeah, you're moving your office, but you're going to stick to downtown. |
| 2:01.6 | Fingers crossed. Fingers crossed. So you brought a handout here that I've seen many times, |
| 2:08.6 | the wheel of power and control. Would you like to talk about it, Rebecca? Yeah. So often I have |
| 2:14.4 | heard from clinicians that they don't work with, it's mostly women, and what |
| 2:22.0 | they call it is kind of an active domestic violence situation. They view those situations as too |
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