Oh, hey, it's 2026, and I've been excited for years to reintroduce you to one of our most popular episodes ever.

We've been holding this one in our back pocket to bust out again, because this ologist has finally, after much waiting in fanfare, released her first book.

It's titled, Tell Me Where It Harts. It just came out a few weeks ago, and we're going to link it in the show

notes. We're also going to hear a little updated message from this guest at the break, fresh, hot off a voice note that she sent in this morning.

So this is a lovely time travel way to hear what she's up to now. Okay. This episode has helped more people

than we'll ever know, and probably you,

and a lot of people, you know, who might be able to use it. So she's amazing. Let's go.

Oh, hey, it's that smoothie cup you should have washed yesterday. Allie Ward, back with an episode

of ologies. Let's get into it. Dolorology. Doler means pain in Latin.

Dolorology.

It's the study of the nature and management of pain.

It's a real thing.

As it turns out, the folks who study it are pretty fired up about talking about it.

And it turns out a lot of listeners are like, I have questions.

So thisologist reached out to me, told me that her mission as a neuroscientist is to help

people feel better.

And I was like, well, how the hell can I turn that down?

So I happened to be in the Bay Area in October following my new husband's new knee surgery.

And after we battled some Friday afternoon traffic,

we arrived at thisologist's Oakland office with Los Angeles style punctuality. And then we settled

into her couch to chat pain. Turns out she knows her stuff. She has long brown hair. She was wearing knee-high boots. She has a

very useful exuberance, but a CV that slaps, metaphorically speaking. She is a working pain

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