Oh my god, hi, it's me Dave Holmes. Welcome to Troubled Waters, the show that treats popular culture.

That's the most important kind of culture because, you know, we say it's the one that bumses out the least, but I don't know.

Even I'm beginning to wonder. Back in the before times, troubled waters, we'd pit two teams of comedians against each other in a pop culture battle royale often in a tiny little studio

the same studio can't do that anymore that is more frowned upon than wrapping at the bafas so for now

it is one comedian against another and to win this battle each comic will be called upon to use their

smarts their rhetorical skills the great comebacks they've been saving in one of those moleskin notebooks that you plug into your

laptop? I don't understand it. To win the coveted Troubled Waters title Punted Emeritus,

which will automatically give their opinion on Hedel Abasset, did the thing. More weight than

a civilian's. Fyola Davis, my woman King.

You're listening to Troubled Waters. By the way, have you seen, uh, team Ariana DeBose has, like, posted today like of them you know behind the scenes like

working on it and doing her makeup and all this and they're like our campy little song is like

in people's heads rent free we're giggling I actually don't think I know what that's a reference

to I just I yeah I just laughed at the idea of someone

rapping at the Baptist. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know that was. I got a text about it this morning.

Okay. Um, I will do my best to explain it to you. Um, so,

Bafters, their awards and they're the, in the, in the Britain. Yes. And it's, they,

they give the awards to the best ones, right? And then then it's, they, they give the awards

to the best ones,

right?

And then so it was,

it was like,

Ariana DeBose was doing,

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