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The Beat with Ari Melber

DOJ's Jack Smith wins Trump gag order

The Beat with Ari Melber

Ari Melber, MS NOW

Politics, Government, News, Versant, Ms Now, Daily News, Versant Media

4.64.2K Ratings

🗓️ 9 December 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Friday, December 8, and reports on Donald Trump’s gag order, Congress and Hunter Biden. Plus, Yuval Noah Harari joins for the latest “Summit Series” installment. Howard Dean and Renato Mariotti also join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the beat, I am Ari Melber and we have breaking news.

0:06.2

Special Counsel Jack Smith's prosecution of Donald Trump for the big coup plot

0:10.3

has scored another procedural victory tonight. It goes to questions of

0:14.6

accountability and whether Trump will through the course of this process be treated

0:18.4

like other defendants or be allowed to use and abuse the following in the

0:22.4

power he has to undercut this important method

0:25.8

of holding him accountable of trying to have accountability for the coup who he's accused of

0:29.5

as he runs for power again.

0:31.6

And the headline you may have heard and we're going to get into it is

0:34.3

this powerful appeals court siding with Jack Smith and upholding most of the gag order that he

0:38.7

had sought and won at the lower court level. This limits what Trump can say in the case, the three-judge

0:44.0

panel barring defendant Trump from, for example, publicly attacking potential

0:48.4

witnesses and court staff and many of the other government employees and staff involved in this prosecution of Trump.

0:56.0

If you follow the news, you probably know he has tried these antics in other cases, including some with lower stakes.

1:01.0

This is the big case that is currently on a schedule to begin

1:04.2

next year in March and which could result in his conviction or imprisonment.

1:08.0

Donald Trump is a defendant is legally presumed innocent. Now one difference though is the court did revise the order and allows Donald

1:15.6

Trump as a defendant to publicly criticize Special Counsel Jack Smith

1:18.5

himself. Now the ruling says that some aspects of Trump's public statements pose a significant

1:24.7

and imminent threat to the fair and orderly adjudication of the ongoing

1:29.2

criminal proceeding against defendant Trump. Now in the initial argument and request for the order, which Jack Smith won,

1:36.9

he cited the fact that Donald Trump had all but made it legally likely that this would

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