Welcome to the beat. Boy do we have a big story to start tonight. Rudy Giuliani, which as you know,

is a name that evokes so much in politics, in law, and also in charting the insurrection and the

coup. There might be no person other than Donald Trump more closely associated with those

efforts to overturn the election. No person more tightly aligned with the strategy, the big lie,

the attempts at every level state, local, elector, and then ultimately marching and storming

the Capitol might be no person larger than Giuliani. So the headline here is a big deal,

special counsel Jack Smith getting Giuliani. That's a sign again that this probe, which at times

it's stalled out with regard to aspects of January 6th is intensifying under special counsel Smith's

leadership. You see Giuliani there with Trump. He met with Smith's team. We can now report under

an agreement that's called a proffer and we're going to do exactly what that involves, but it

basically is a type of step or victory for Jack Smith because it means that he has gotten Giuliani

to sit down and talk. It can also ultimately lead to a cooperation deal, although that's not being

reported yet. But there may be a great interest inside DOJ in getting everything they can out of

Giuliani or getting him to flip and provide material, factual evidence, and otherwise,

on who else, including Donald Trump, may have been involved in crimes related to the coup.

Now, Giuliani has played many roles. He was of course a prosecutor himself. He was mayor.

But his role here is the personal lawyer and the face of the big lie. The New York Times

is one of the outlets that's reported this and they describe it as a quote voluntary interview.

This is new breaking today. The interview itself, they document as taking place sometime last week

and an indication that Smith is seeking witnesses who might cooperate in the case, again,

that word cooperate because proffer can lead to more than just words. It can lead to a full-blown

cooperation deal. Now, the New York Times reports that the feds asked about very specific things,

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