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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

Doing the Hamlet Act

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.66.3K Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2020

⏱️ 102 minutes

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Summary

In true Remnant fashion, Jonah speaks to Seth Masket – a political scientist at the University of Denver – in an attempt to understand why so few people in American life actually get what they want out of their vote. In Seth’s new book, Learning from Loss, he traces the Democratic Party’s inability to come up with a coherent “autopsy” post-2016 as Republicans did post-2012 (which is not to say that the GOP actually followed its own advice; we wouldn’t have Trump if it did). There’s some debate punditry at the beginning, before Seth and Jonah swiftly move into the explanations that Democratic organizers and activists have developed for why Clinton lost to Trump. The primary explanations often focus on a contentious topic: identity politics. As Seth says, “Doing this research helped to remind me that all identity claims are essentially a construction,” but for something so artificial, they have a very outsized effect on our politics. While Seth and Jonah effectively take opposite sides on this issue, they generate much more light than heat, while also arriving at an answer to the fundamentally important question in 2020: For a party so concerned with diversity, how is it that the Dems ended up nominating a septuagenarian white guy? Show Notes: -The Dispatch30-day trial at -Learning from Loss: The Democrats, 2016-2020Seth’s new book, -White liberals have moved farther to the left -Overdetermined phenomena -Weather’s effect on elections -The RNC’s 2012 “autopsy” -The invisible primary -The Party Decides -White Identity PoliticsAshley Jardina’s -Breaking the Two-Party Doom Loop -DrinkHydrant.com/Dingo for 25% off your first order -Acton.org/Dingo to subscribe to the Acton Line podcast

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0:00.0

Oh

0:14.3

Ladies and gentlemen

0:16.5

Could I please have your attention

0:19.4

Hello

0:27.5

Please be listening this is John Goldberg host of the Remnant Oddcast brought to you by the dispatch and dispatch media

0:35.0

Our 30-day trial period is ending next week. So if you can

0:40.0

Give it a whirl that would be wonderful. We've had some great responses

0:44.2

Despite the fact I dropped the ball because of

0:48.8

a host of work related issues and couldn't get the Wednesday G file out

0:54.4

for which I am

0:57.4

I mean this kind of sincerely grossly sorry. I hate missing those kinds of things

1:03.6

Anyway, today's episode I'm actually recording this after I finished

1:07.8

So if I sound like I'm sort of a spent force it's because I'm a spent force and I had a very long conversation

1:14.4

with Seth Masket from Denver University of Denver

1:18.9

and

1:20.5

It was it was I think

1:23.9

It was sufficiently interesting to me that I didn't want it to end and I work on the assumption on this podcast that if it's

1:30.0

sufficiently interesting to me that the people who listen to this podcast will also find it sufficiently interesting

1:35.6

So rather than split it into we're just gonna let it run

1:39.3

If you want to wait till the end we got into a long thing about identity politics

1:43.2

but I think it was worth

1:46.3

running with for a while and

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