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Disordered: Anxiety Help

Doing It Anyway - While Hurting And Challenged (Episode 133)

Disordered: Anxiety Help

Josh Fletcher and Drew Linsalata

Mental Health, Health & Fitness

4.9663 Ratings

🗓️ 14 November 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Sometimes life throws real challenges at you. Medical issues. Loss. Uncertainty. The kind of stuff that makes anxiety feel completely justified. So how do you move forward when you're genuinely scared AND dealing with actual difficult circumstances?


In this episode, we share some of the most powerful "did it anyway" stories we've ever received. From someone facing serious health challenges to a marathon runner dealing with panic attacks, these listeners show us what it really means to engage with life even when things are legitimately hard.


We talk about why waiting to "fix yourself" before living your life doesn't work, how to handle the reality that feelings don't always indicate actual danger, and what it means to let both the good and difficult parts of life exist at the same time. You don’t have to be fearless. But you can do what matters even while you're afraid.


If you're struggling with the gap between how you feel and what you want to do with your life, this episode might help you see that moving forward is possible, even when it feels impossible.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Doing things whilst scared and hurt.

0:05.0

Why would we do that? We gotta wait.

0:07.0

Let's wait, fix ourselves and then do it, Drew, surely, right?

0:11.0

Life doesn't wait. Like, even the days when you are hurting,

0:14.0

and the days when you are sad and you are scared and things are going wrong and nothing is right,

0:19.0

that's still life.

0:20.0

You're not just doing a technique. You're not just doing a thing. You are showing yourself that you

0:26.6

can live even with the uncomfortable feelings. A lot like Sandra has been just shown us.

0:33.1

A lot of soul searching, a lot of reflection, a lot of like really thinking about what's important

0:37.0

to are to get to that, but that is a place that we can get to. This is a real thing and it may limit my

0:44.5

time. So I have to work with this now. Welcome to Disordered. This is episode 133. Today we're talking about doing it anyway, but doing it

0:59.0

anyway while you're hurting or you're afraid or something is really wrong. We have a great

1:04.7

story to start with that's going to get us into this topic. So let's get cooking. I'm Drew

1:09.4

Insalada. I am a therapist that specializes

1:11.6

in the treatment of anxiety and anxiety disorders in New York, in the US of A, former sufferer of the

1:17.0

things we talk about here on this podcast, a three-time author on the topic, psychoeducator, social

1:22.3

media guy, a guy that spends too much money on microphones clearly and one half of disorder.

1:27.8

The other half happens to be.

1:30.3

I'm Joshua Fletcher also known as anxiety Josh.

1:33.5

And I'm a psychotherapist and author who specializes in the topic of anxiety and anxiety disorders.

1:38.9

I write books, do podcasts, and I prance around on social media.

1:43.1

Thank you for tuning in. I love doing this podcast. Yeah, It's, it's, it's, it's one of the best hours of the week for sure. Um, the reason why we want to just do this topic, doing it anyway, even while you're scared and hurting and things are really going wrong is we got maybe the greatest did it anyway sent in by a listener ever so it hit us both like it was it's

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