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Doing Democracy: Jennifer Pahlka on How to 'Recode America'

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Politics, News, News Commentary

4.6 • 656 Ratings

🗓️ 2 November 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

During the height of the pandemic, the agency that handles California’s unemployment benefits had an epic meltdown. Not only could its computers not handle the thousands of additional claims, officials couldn’t even say for sure how big the backlog was. Jennifer Pahlka was one of the technology experts brought in to help, an experience she writes about in her new book Recoding America: Why Government Is Failing In the Digital Age and How We Can Do Better. The former United States chief deputy technology officer and founder of Code for America, Pahlka reveals why systems are too often developed to meet the needs of bureaucrats instead of the public. She joins Forum as part of our “Doing Democracy” series. Guests: Jennifer Pahlka, author, "Recoding America: Why Government Is Failing In the Digital Age and How We Can Do Better." Pahlka is the founder of Code America and has served as the chief deputy technology officer for the United States Government. She lives in Oakland. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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From KQED in San Francisco, I'm Alexis Madrigal.

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It's time for our monthly series doing democracy, and today we're examining one of the crucial factors eroding trust in that democracy.

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But it's not polarization or a political party's dysfunction or even gridlock. We're going to talk about how policies are implemented in the digital age, how they

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lead to problems, and what happens when people encounter a government technology that fails them.

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We're joined by Jennifer Polka, author of the book Recoding America, and she's going to give us an

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inside and deeply insightful look

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into the efforts to build government capacity to actually serve the people in ways big and small.

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She's coming up next after this news. Welcome to Forum.

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I'm Alexis Madrigal.

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Jennifer Polko is the founder of Code for America.

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