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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the Spectators' Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Cindy E and I'm joined by Katie Bulls and a Financial Times as Stephen Bush.

Katie, to start with, press vote for the policing minister had the

MNVB task of going on a morning boardcast round this morning.

And this is what he had to say.

How can it be acceptable someone who was running the Treasury to be in the position of having been careless in relation to their tax affairs?

Look, I don't know precisely what form that carelessness took, neither do you.

Nobody does and that's why we need the investigation to find out exactly what happened.

We need a penalty for it.

The settlement was in the region of £5 million.

We don't know exactly what, I think that was the amount of tax owed, wasn't it?

We don't know exactly what happened.

We don't know what formed this carelessness took.

So let's have an investigation to find out.

Do you think he was able to end those questions surrounding the Deams Ahawi that have

kind of gone into their property about a fourth or fifth day now?

I don't think anything is really going to do that.

Barring the resignation of the Deams Ahawi or potentially the outcome of this investigation.

But I think even at that point people would be asking, well, is it really possible for this politician to stay in quite a

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