Hello and welcome to another episode of the Americano podcast, a series of discussions about American politics and the Trump presidency.

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advantage of our various offers. I'm joined today by Andrew Basevich, who is president of the

Quincy Institute for Responsible Stakecraft.

And we're going to be talking about Donald Trump's foreign policy.

And you have an excellent piece in the upcoming edition of Spectator USA,

in which you say that finally we have a clearly defined Trump doctrine and that it was defined

in this tweet, we will fight where it is only to our benefit and only to win. Do you see this

as an improvement in foreign policy or as a doctrine to what we had before? Well, I, you know,

I need to emphasize that to some degree this piece is intended to be

tongue-in-cheek.

Yeah.

The president of the United States is really not capable of thinking in terms that are rooted in

history, in serious history.

He's not capable of putting together anything that would amount to really a comprehensive

and principled approach to America's role in the world.

But for all of his faults, it does seem to be the case.

And Lord knows why,

that he does have an aversion to wars that just drag on and on

and don't seem to advance the interests of the United States.

So on that point at least, or perhaps I should say on that point only,

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