Does “The Talk” Still Work? | MiniPod
Native Land Pod
iHeartPodcasts and Reasoned Choice
4.8 • 3.5K Ratings
🗓️ 23 January 2026
⏱️ 26 minutes
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Summary
Parents of young Black men and boys are familiar with “the talk,” the conversation about how to survive encounters with law enforcement. It’s an unfortunate necessity.
ICE is now indiscriminately asking Black folks for their papers and detaining them. We got a question from one of YOU about how this new reality affects “the talk.” The answer is much the same as it's always been BUT we appreciate the reminder that it is a good time to refresh our kids on “the talk.”
ALSO we got an update from one of our viewers on the political situation in Tanzania.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an IHeart podcast. |
| 0:02.6 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:04.3 | NativeLand Pod is a production of IHeart Radio and partnership with Reason Choice Media. |
| 0:09.7 | Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome home, everybody. |
| 0:15.3 | This is this week's mini pod. |
| 0:18.0 | I know y'all are dying to hear what we're talking about. |
| 0:22.0 | Before we actually get into the topic for this week, if it's okay with my co-host, again, I'm |
| 0:26.0 | Andrew Gillum. I'm joined here by some other people. I think that's, is that? So dear, |
| 0:32.5 | Ms. Ryan. I don't know who that'll do this. But his title on my computer says, that's Bukari Sellers. |
| 0:39.6 | Welcome Bukari to this episode. |
| 0:41.8 | I'm messing with y'all. |
| 0:43.2 | Y'all, we wanted to get into some questions. |
| 0:46.0 | One in particular, actually. |
| 0:48.8 | And that is around, does the talk still work? |
| 0:51.7 | And when we say the talk, we're talking about what probably all of |
| 0:56.6 | us can reflect on from our childhood, at least certainly people of color and black boys in |
| 1:02.5 | particular when your parents or someone meaningful in your life sat you down and said, this is what |
| 1:08.2 | you do, this is what you don't do, particularly as it relates to law enforcement. |
| 1:12.6 | Our talk was broader, a little bit broader than just the police. |
| 1:15.8 | It was also adults, period. |
| 1:17.6 | It was also about people who touch you. |
| 1:19.6 | It was also about how you scream out for help. |
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