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It's a real politic analysis.

It's like, yes, Israel's unpopular. Yes, there's a lot of noise around Israel,

but we kind of need Israel. And I think that transcends. That's in the tech scene. That's in capitals and

countries around the world that want to make sure they have a good intelligence, strategic,

and military relationship with Israel. So it's less romantic. It's less, quote, unquote, about shared values.

And it's more about what can we get out of this relationship.

Do we need it?

The brand hasn't expired for cold-blooded strategic decision makers sitting atop companies

or sitting atop governments.

I think with the quote-unquote public, it's a different situation.

It's 7 p.m. on Thursday, July 2nd in Israel. It's 12 p.m. on Thursday, July 2nd, in New York City,

where we Americans are preparing to celebrate and honor the 250th anniversary of our nation's founding and independence.

So much to honor and celebrate.

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