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From Cafe and WNYC Studios, welcome to stay tuned. I'm Pete Barara.

If you're doing legislative oversight of the executive branch and you're having your

strings pulled by the subject of that investigation in the executive branch, that's not real legislative

oversight. And at its worst, it might actually be obstruction of justice.

It's Sheldon White House. He's a U.S. Senator from Rhode Island. He used to be the attorney

general of that state and once upon a time, the United States Attorney. And right now,

he's serving on the Senate Judiciary Committee, which, as you might imagine, is pretty important,

especially these days. We're talking to Senator White House this week because there's

so much happening in Washington right now, between the Nunes memo, the Russia investigation,

another possible shutdown. We figured it was time to speak with a lawmaker and

specifically a Democrat to see what the opposition party strategy might be during this wild

time in Washington. But first, let's get to your questions.

Hi, Pete. My name is Rob from Denver and I have a question about a fundamental aspect

of the Nunes memo that I just don't understand. If you and I are neighbors and you hate my

guts and my wife disappears and you call the police and you give them an anonymous tip

that I might have had something to do with my wife's disappearance. And then the police

...