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Coffee House Shots

Does Rachel Reeves need an 'escape route' on winter fuel?

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

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🗓️ 6 September 2024

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

Fraser Nelson and Katy Balls join James Heale to look ahead to a crucial week for Labour. On Tuesday, Parliament will hold a binding vote on the changes to winter fuel allowance - how are Labour expected to deal with this? Former shadow chancellor Ed Balls, and husband of the current home secretary Yvette Cooper, has argued that Labour need an 'escape route' from the policy. What can we read from this intervention? And how influenced are the government by the spectres of George Osborne and Liz Truss?

Also on the podcast, Fraser talks about both the problems facing Germany, and the surprisingly successful measure that Sweden has introduced, to deal with net migration.

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welcome to copy house shots. I'm James Hill. I'm joined today by Katie

0:30.2

balls and Fraser Nelson.

0:31.6

Now Katie the big girl that's been going on in labour recently is about the winter fuel

0:34.8

allowance which the government plans to scrap largely for 10 million pensioners.

0:38.8

Next week there's going to be a vote on that.

0:40.1

Tell us more.

0:41.1

So this is on Tuesday and this week Labour Whips decided to allow a vote to both

0:46.7

the Tories and the Lib Dems have been pushing for one and it obviously comes as Rachel Reeves

0:51.6

announced that she would be cutting which of your allowance

0:54.8

unless you were eligible for pension credits and so forth. Before the summer

0:59.5

recess it was part of the big look at this huge fiscal black hole I found moment we're going to

1:04.3

take some immediate steps but then more steps in the budget so it was a spending cut there was

1:08.5

also some infrastructure projects that were cut and then the prospect of tax rises when we get to the budget at the end of October.

1:15.8

Since then, it's been quite clear that the backlash has been growing within the Labour

1:19.8

Parliamentary Party is also an area where I think every party is opposing

1:25.0

Labour's position. So you have reform saying it's unfair, you have the Tories saying

1:29.2

it's cruel, and you also have the Lib Dems going for Labour labour and the lived Dems I think is interesting because they are trying to work that way to provide opposition to the Labour government, but they really still see the Tories as their main opponents and they want to build.

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