Hey, y'all, DJ Louis here dropping a preview of our latest Pop Panty on All Access episode.

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This week's episode is a deep dive that was requested by our patron subscribers into Mariah

Carey's infamous bomb glitter from 2001, the soundtrack to her accompanying bomb movie

of the same name. And an album that got a hashtag Justice 4 movement recently. So I invited

entertainment journalist Matt Jacobs onto the show to talk all things glitter, the music,

all of the surrounding drama, the J-Lo versus Mariah of it all, the 9-11 of it all, the Justice 4 movement of it all, et cetera, et cetera. It was one of my favorite conversations I've ever had on the show. So if you enjoy this clip and you want to hear the rest of this episode plus at least three more bonus episodes of the show per month and a ton of other perks. You can subscribe at patreon.com

slash pop pantheon or click the link in the show notes of this episode. All right. So I am here

with entertainment writer Matt Jacobs. Matt, welcome to the show. Thanks. I'm delighted to be here

to talk about a formative moment and I'm sure both of our pop culture stories.

Indeed. And a fun one to return to on numerous fronts. So of course, we're here today to talk

about Mariah Carey's 2001 soundtrack album Glitter, which obviously accompanied her infamous flop.

Maybe like one of the original times, maybe we like use the word flop in

this context for a pop star. I don't know. It's really one of the most like iconic ones when I think

about famous flops, right? So this is going to be a conversation that I think we can approach from like

numerous angles. Obviously we're going to be focused on the music. I'm really excited to talk about it.

But you wrote an exhaustive piece for Vulture two years ago on the anniversary of Glitter

called The Never Ending Story of Glitter 20 years on, which everybody should go read if you

haven't.

It's a great accompaniment to our conversation today.

But one of the things I think this gives us a window into is like the modern phenomenon

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