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Hello, friends. Greg Kolko is stand a reason and you guys are getting this podcast or this broadcast at least two days later than the first one that we just did.

I'm just four minutes from that last podcast and I'm still in a, you know, my wonderful conversation with Cade at 15-year-old Cade.

I've been calling this show for since he was 13. When I first met Cade, he was 13 and I met him at Minneapolis a reality two years ago.

Now he's 15. It's strange. Every year, every time I get a year older, everybody else gets a year older.

But young people seem to change more than I do. I just get older looking a little more wrinkles, but anyway.

So I'm still kind of thinking about all of that stuff and the question was about taking what seems to be well justified knowledge we have about the nature of the universe.

So I'm going to look at this way rather than saying science says because I think characterizing of this discussion as pitting the authority of science against the authority of God's word is a mischaracterization.

I believe God's word has authority as long as we understand it the way the author intended it to be understood. So it has to be properly interpreted.

I do not think science has any authority. I think science, there is no authority to science. What science is is a discipline of discovering things and their ideas about what they discover and how to explain things changes over time.

Things that they discover is extremely well justified and the reliability of their conclusions comes from the justification of the view in question and not because it is a pronouncement of science who is the authority.

That is a very important distinction. I don't know that I've ever made it here on the show before, but that's a really important distinction.

In my view, science has no authority as a voice because the authority, the voice of science has changed over time. It's famously, it's changed over time.

The whole systems that the scientists used to think were the case turned out not to be the case.

By the way, just think of the paradigm shift from some form of creation, intelligent design prior to Darwin, then after Darwin, a whole new paradigm is put in place and that's the Darwinian evolution paradigm.

So just as an example, there's radical change over time with the opinions of scientists regarding facts for the world. This is why it's a mistake to say that science is an authority.

The only thing that is authoritative, and that's not even the right word, but we seem to be able to rely on our explanations that are well justified.

And then it's the justification of those explanations that give force to those ideas, not because some scientists said it was so. Science has no authority.

But for me as a follower of Christ, if I have well justified information that seems to go against the way I read Scripture, one of two things is mistaken.

Either my understanding of this piece of information that seems to be well justified is false or Scripture is false.

And now I have to ask myself the question, do I believe the Scripture because it's true or is it true because I believe it?

Do I believe the Scripture because it's true? And by the way, if that's the case, it's because my understanding of what the Scripture says actually matches the way the world is.

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