This is Hidden Killers with Tony Brewski.

Here now, Tony Bruske.

We're going to find up more info because there is new vehicle data that's going to be used in this trial.

And that's not going to lie.

That's also going to tell us when Karen Reid made those voicemails or sent those voicemails and started making the 50-some phone calls after she left, supposedly, it'll be interesting to see, well, what time were those made?

Was she still sitting in that car waiting for him?

Was she nearby?

That's going to be a real interesting piece of all of this as a new piece of data.

The dog bite information is going to come on, but they can't use the word Chloe.

They just have to identify it as a dog.

And they're also, they are going to bring in, from what I understand, some of the bite mark

pieces of this, the dog's molding of and everything to see, does this match up with John O'Keefe's

bite wounds? Something they did not do last time, which I was really puzzled by, but maybe because

it could go very badly for either side and neither

wanted to roll the dice on it.

And that's what it would take.

So like we were saying, in order to counteract the laws of probability, you're going

to need very, very factual data points like that in order to do it.

And it's kind of like, you know, the Koberger case.

I have it not been for

for one single touch point DNA data point. There's a lot of things in there that wouldn't fall

in line because the laws of probability. But in this case, you know, it's everything is against

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