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The Michael Shermer Show

Does Humanity Function as a Single Superorganism?

The Michael Shermer Show

Michael Shermer

Dialogue, Science, Reason, Michaelshermer, Natural Sciences, Skeptic

4.4921 Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2024

⏱️ 95 minutes

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Summary

Could humans unknowingly be a part of a larger superorganism—one with its own motivations and goals, one that is alive, and conscious, and has the power to shape the future of our species? This is the fascinating theory from author and futurist Byron Reese, who calls this human superorganism “Agora.”

In We Are Agora, Reese starts by asking the question, “What is life and how did it form?” From there, he looks at how multicellular life came about, how consciousness emerged, and how other superorganisms in nature have formed. Then, he poses eight big questions based on the Agora theory, including:

  • If ants have colonies, bees have hives, and we have our bodies, how does Agora manifest itself? Does it have a body?
  • Can Agora explain things that happen that are both under our control and near universally undesirable, such as war?
  • How can Agora theory explain long-term progress we’ve made in the world?

In this unique and ambitious work that spans all of human history and looks boldly into its future, Reese melds science and history to look at the human species from a fresh new perspective. We Are Agora will give readers a better understanding of where we’ve been, where we’re going, and how our fates are intertwined.

Shermer and Reese discuss: • organisms and superorganisms • origins of life • the self • emergence • consciousness • Is the Internet a superorganism? • Will AI create a superorganism? • Could AI become sentient or conscious? • the hard problem of consciousness • cities as superorganisms • planetary superorganisms • Are we living in a simulation? • Why are we here?

Byron Reese is an Austin-based entrepreneur with a quarter-century of experience building and running technology companies. A recognized authority on AI who holds a number of technology patents, Byron is a futurist with a strong conviction that technology will help bring about a new golden age of humanity. He gives talks around the world about how technology is changing work, education, and culture. He is the author of four books on technology; his previous title The Fourth Agewas described by the New York Times as “entertaining and engaging.” Bloomberg Businessweek credits Reese with having “quietly pioneered a new breed of media company.” The Financial Times reported that he “is typical of the new wave of internet entrepreneurs out to turn the economics of the media industry on its head.” He and his work have been featured in hundreds of news outlets, including the New York Times, Washington Post, Entrepreneur, USA Today, Reader’s Digest, and NPR.

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You're listening to the Michael Sherman Show. The Michael Sherber Show Hello everyone I wanted to tell you about two trips we're sponsoring this year of part of our Geo Tours portion of the Skeptic Society is our social and science

0:38.0

explorations. The first one is June 2nd through 16th, so 14 days, two weeks from Ireland to Iceland on a cruise

0:47.8

ship with none other than Richard Dawkins.

0:51.8

This is the passage from Ireland to Iceland we're calling it and

0:54.4

Richard Dawkins will be the invited guest and lecturer where you can hang out

0:59.7

with him for two weeks. As on this ship, the Vega, it has a guest of 152 plate people that can join, so it's not a big huge

1:10.9

cruise ship with thousands of people. so you get to intimate time with

1:14.3

with Richard it starts in Dublin it goes to Reykjavik as we explore Europe's

1:20.3

northernmost islands Scotland's Hebrides, Orkines, and Shetlands, Denmark's

1:27.0

Barrows Islands and Iceland. A remote world known for its rugged landscape, picturesque villages, fascinating history, and nature

1:36.1

lovers delights.

1:38.5

The second trip is from Greenland to Canada's Nova Scotia.

1:44.3

We're calling this Wonders of the Arctic

1:45.9

on the same ship, just 152 person ship called the Vega.

1:49.7

It's a beautiful ship.

1:51.2

Our featured guest for that trip, which is September 23rd through October 10th,

1:57.0

is Jared Diamond. Yes, Jared. So we have Richard Dawkins and Jared Diamond,

2:01.9

two of the biggest names of our generation,

2:04.8

two of the greatest minds, both good friends.

2:07.4

Just picture just sitting on a ship just hanging out with these guys.

2:10.0

So of course they're lecturing, but breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

2:13.3

They're just sitting around and you can sit there and chat with two

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