All right, I'm Jack Greenlich.

I think you can listen to music from relaxing, to celebrating, to getting yourself prepared.

I like all sorts, honestly. I like hip-hop, R&B, and then house music as well.

So yeah, there's no guilt in places around here.

Jack wears the Bose Quiet Comfort Ultra headphones, enjoying his favourite music,

with more immersive sounds than ever before.

Wow, the music's just everything, isn't it?

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Hey everybody, this is Open to Debate. I'm John Don Van.

And you may have heard it said that an imperative in the life of a shark is that it has to keep moving or else it will die.

Is that really true? Yeah, actually it is. I've looked it up.

Not every species of shark, but for some of them like the great white, it is move or die.

That is the rule. That is its fate.

Okay, we are not debating sharks this time, maybe someday.

But we are debating a similar dynamic, and that is economic growth.

It's been something of a truism that the proper dynamic of an economy is always to grow.

You want your GDP, your gross domestic product, ever expanding more and more and more.

Growth is good. A year without growth, that's a setback, that's a recession, depressing word.

And a really serious setback, that's literally called a depression.

But what about this assumption that growth is an economic imperative?

Well, it has been challenged before many times over the decades, and it is being challenged again more recently by what is called the degrowth movement.

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