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me today. We've got a really interesting conversation on consciousness on the show, the mind,

the brain, that kind of thing and I'll be introducing my guests in a moment. But your feedback

as well to recent shows coming up towards the end of today's programme had the third episode

of our new season of the big conversation last week. Peter J Williams and Bart M. and

debating the reliability of the Gospels and you have been getting in touch about that.

Plus I've got a huge mailbag of other correspondence that I haven't got to so we'll try and get

through some of that as well. Got some thoughts as well on that big story about Kanye West bringing

out that Gospel album, Jesus is King. And I want to tell you about my debate in Oxford

with a rationality rules, Stephen Woodford, the atheist YouTuber who goes by that name.

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Mind, consciousness and the brain is currently one of the great frontiers in science and philosophy.

Many atheists say that our experience of thinking, feeling and being me is an illusion,

foisted on us by an entirely physical process in our brain. Others are pushing beyond those

materialist explanations and we're going to be examining some different approaches today.

Philip Goff is a philosopher and consciousness researcher at Durham University.

Now he wouldn't necessarily describe himself as a Christian, we'll get into that in a moment,

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