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Daniel and Kelly’s Extraordinary Universe

Does consciousness come from quantum processes in the brain?

Daniel and Kelly’s Extraordinary Universe

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Natural Sciences, Physics, Science, Astronomy

4.72.8K Ratings

🗓️ 2 April 2026

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Daniel and Kelly explore Penrose's Orchestrated Objective Reduction Theory that aims to explain consciousness, quantum measurements, quantum gravity and anaesthesia!

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0:00.0

This is an I-Hard podcast.

0:03.0

Guaranteed Human.

0:12.2

What is more mysterious than consciousness?

0:15.9

Where does our subjective experience come from?

0:19.1

It's certainly a puzzle that has baffled philosophers for eons.

0:23.3

But wait, what about quantum mechanics? That's a big puzzle, too. Why can quantum objects

0:28.7

maintain a superposition, but classical objects, which are made from quantum objects, somehow cannot?

0:35.6

And what's the difference between a quantum and classical object?

0:39.2

Also a major source of philosophical confusion. But hold on a second, what about the conflicts

0:44.8

between quantum mechanics and gravity? How can we have two beautiful theories, both of which

0:50.7

have been stress tested to an extraordinary level, but which clash in their basic

0:55.5

description of the universe.

0:57.2

Can they ever be harmonized?

0:59.7

These three questions battle for supremacy in the world of philosophy and physics.

1:04.6

Each one has been attacked from many sides, the greatest minds in history struggling to

1:09.5

make concrete progress.

1:11.7

But what if we could solve not just one, not just two, but all three with one theory,

1:18.9

one idea that explains consciousness, quantum measurements, and harmonizes quantum mechanics

1:25.1

with gravity?

1:26.7

Today, we'll explore a controversial theory that claims to do just that and a little more.

1:32.8

Welcome to Daniel and Kelly's extraordinarily ambitious universe.

1:55.8

Thank you. Hello, I'm Kelly Weiner-Smith. I study parasites and space. And today we are talking about all of the topics that make Kelly's brain go out.

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