Oh, Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention.

Can I please have your attention?

And you, Jiggas! Okay, so as I threaten, and I promise we're not going to do this a lot. I'm on quite a few podcasts where you never hear about it.

But I really enjoyed my conversation with Eli Lake. Eli's one of my favorite writers. and he asked some questions that I think a lot of people

have of how I approach this stuff or how do I justify my approach or what the hell's going

on with me that kind of thing. I found it useful to have someone

prying that stuff out of me and got a lot of great feedback. He's got this great

podcast called the re-education and I want to help him so that's part of the reason why we're doing this is

you know sort of cross-promotion kind of thing we're re-releasing as a remnant our

conversation promises in we're not going to make a regular thing of doing

this kind of thing, but just so happens, the timing made sense and we've had such a busy time over the holidays and with our end of your meetings that it's just it's also just good content.

So listen to this and then if you like Eli's approaches stuff, become a subscriber to the re-education as well.

Oh, and there will not be a No You Won't, this is a podcast, close to this episode or even a close

for me because again, it's not my podcast so however Eli ends his

podcast maybe he says next year in Jerusalem I don't know that's the way it's going to be so

thanks to Eli and thank you and I'll see you next time.

Well we are really lucky today to have a great guest

author of the very underrated book, The Tyranny of Cliches, not to mention

liberal fascism and Suicide of the West, author of the G file, which you should be reading,

and a founding editor of the Dispatch file which you should be reading and founding editor of the

dispatch. Jonah Goldberg thanks so much for coming on the re-education.

It's my absolute pleasure, Eli. It's been great. So the reason I wanted to have

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