Does America Have a Cult Problem? | Daniella Mestyanek Young
Preacher Boys Podcast
Eric Skwarczynski
4.5 • 737 Ratings
🗓️ 2 November 2025
⏱️ 60 minutes
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Daniella was born a third-generation member of the infamous Children of God religious cult, and grew up being trafficked around the world, before escaping that life and moving to America at age 15. She put herself through high school and graduated as college valedictorian before commissioning into the US Army as an intelligence officer. That’s where she really started to think about group behavior…and seeing it, well, everywhere.
Daniella deployed twice to Afghanistan (2011, 2014) and became a member of one of the Army’s first Female Engagement teams (an experiment that put women into deliberate ground combat for the first time in Army history, and eventually led to the repeal of the sexist combat ban and the gender desegregation of the entire US military).
She is a proud daughter of the 101st, (that's the unit in Band of Brothers), and a recipient of the Presidential Volunteer Service Award (from Obama, y'all). She earned her Master of Arts in Organizational Psychology at the Harvard Extension School, where she focused her research on group behavior, social norms, culture, extremism, leadership, demagoguery and cults.
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| 0:00.0 | Coming up on the Preach Boys podcast. |
| 0:02.2 | Every person that defined cults has to then answer, what about the military and what about |
| 0:06.5 | Alcoholics Anonymous? |
| 0:07.8 | And the answer is they're both cults. |
| 0:10.1 | Late 60s when the government discovered brainwashing, right? |
| 0:14.9 | We were getting our prisoners of war back from Korea. |
| 0:18.3 | They had learned it from the Chinese. |
| 0:20.6 | The mind control. This is when this idea |
| 0:22.7 | was kind of born. Folks like Robert Lifton started studying it and folks like the U.S. Army said, |
| 0:28.3 | hmm, can we use it as a weapon? They then hired four psychologists who studied abusive relationships |
| 0:33.9 | and cults. And those are the people who built modern day basic training. |
| 0:38.0 | In my first book, the prologue ends with me in basic training holding this 50-pound |
| 0:43.0 | duffel bag above my head going, oh my gosh, I think I just joined another cult. |
| 0:46.7 | Oh. |
| 0:50.5 | Can nobody save? Ain't nobody safe Ain't nobody safe |
| 0:55.0 | Ain't nobody safe Oh in a Bible moment. Oh, in the Bible moment. |
| 1:18.6 | Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the Preacher Boys podcast today on the show. I'm sitting down with |
| 1:22.6 | Daniela Mastienic Young, also affectionately known as the Knitting Cult Lady. |
| 1:28.4 | She was born a third generation member of the infamous children of God religious cult |
| 1:32.4 | and grew up being trafficked around the world before escaping that life and moving to America at age 15. |
| 1:38.3 | She put herself through high school and graduated as college valedictorian before commissioning into the U.S. Army as an intelligence offer. |
| 1:45.5 | And that's where she really started to think about group behavior and seeing it, well, |
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