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Documenting Stolen Youth w/ Zachary Heinzerling

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IndoctriNation

Religion & Spirituality

4.8566 Ratings

🗓️ 3 May 2023

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Zachary Heinzerling is an Academy Award-nominated and Emmy Award-winning director based in New York City. His latest docu-series entitled “Stolen Youth: Inside the Cult of Sarah Lawrence" about Larry Ray and his victims, premiered February 9th, 2023 on Hulu. The New York Times praised it as “a true-crime-coup,” The New Yorker called it "a remarkable work, advancing the prestige true-crime genre’s slow but steady reorientation toward centering victims" In this fascinating look behind the scenes of Heinzerling's critically acclaimed series on the cult of Larry Ray, Zach emphasizes the important insights he learned from Rachel in the conversations he had with her throughout the filmmaking process. Together they discuss the ethics of documenting survivor stories and the importance of creating not only an accurate depiction of the tragic events but an honest narrative that teaches the audience about the red flags that we're missed and why they were so hard to recognize. Before You Go: Rachel offers her insights on the sensitive nature of interviewing survivors of cultic abuse or coercive control in media or counseling and offers advice on how to tell survivor-led stories ethically and with conscious intentionality. Follow Zach on IG and Twitter: @haryheinz All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Tik Tok: www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/ YouTube: www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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0:00.0

Welcome to indoctrination, a weekly conversation series about protecting yourself from systems of control. I'm your host, Rachel Bernstein.

0:13.7

Hi, everybody. I wanted just to remind people to go to patreon.com slash indoctrination to become a supporter of the show. It's something

0:23.2

that gets repeated here because it is the way we sustain the show. We don't have a company that

0:31.2

pays for it. I pay for it. And so it's a way to make sure that it can keep going. So please partner with me with us here

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on the podcast team and go to patreon.com slash indoctrination. And if you join the $50 or more tier

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per month, then you get to have monthly conversations with me.

0:56.6

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1:01.1

You get to ask questions pertaining to these issues, but personalize to you.

1:07.7

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slash indoctrination and pay $50 or more per month. And then we'll be sure to set that up.

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Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you for your support.

1:26.7

And for today, we have Zachary Heinzerling. I first talked to Zachary when he was working on the documentary about the Sarah Lawrence cult.

1:40.1

Zachary is an Academy Award nominated and Emmy Award-winning director based in New York City.

1:46.8

He began his career at HBO, working on four consecutive Emmy Award-winning documentaries

1:52.5

and the Emmy Award-winning series 24-7 as a field producer and cinematographer.

1:59.5

In 2012, he left HBO to complete his feature debut,

2:04.8

the multi-award-winning film, Cutie and the Boxer, which he both directed and shot.

2:12.1

Cutie and the Boxer was nominated for the 2014 Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature.

2:21.1

The film also won a 2015 Emmy Award for Best Feature Documentary. In 2015, he was enlisted by Beyonce Knowles Carter to direct the

2:28.4

five-part web series self-titled for her album, Beyonce. In 2019, he directed an episode of Dirty Money for Netflix.

2:39.3

In 2021, he directed the critically acclaimed six-part series McCartney 321. His latest docuseries

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