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Documentary #6: Beer - Crafting a Better Economy

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News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.92.1K Ratings

🗓️ 9 May 2017

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Once an important life-force of early civilization and an ancient crafter of community, beer was, like many things under our current economic system, disfigured and twisted by the forces of the market and the drive for profit. In this episode, we take a close look at this story, starting in ancient Mesopotamia and tracing the history of beer up through the giant consolidations of the 20th century to the birth of the craft beer revolution in the 1970s and 80s. Brew expert and award-winning author Randy Mosher guides us through this history, telling great stories and exploring ancient beer mythology along the way. But the story doesn't end there -- the beer revolution is really just beginning. Craft beer has begun to bring back many of the most important values and characteristics of beer that were lost for so long, going far beyond just taste. How is the new economy embodied in a pint of beer? This is an important theme that Rob Hopkins, the co-founder of the Transition Town movement and founder of New Lion Brewery, explores throughout the episode. How is craft beer beginning to stitch back together the economies of towns and cities that have been torn apart by globalization and an obsession with growth? How can beer demonstrate the concept of the circular economy? These are important questions explored in depth through Rob's expertise. There are many other incredible stories of brewers and breweries that are radically changing the landscape of the beer industry. Throughout the episode you'll meet a wide variety of folks, from a brewery in London that makes beer out of surplus bread, to the first cooperatively owned brewery in California. After listening to this episode, you may never look at a bottle of beer in the same way. Disclaimer: listening to this episode may cause you to crave a dark, chocolatey stout. Or a piney, hoppy IPA. Or a nutty brown ale. Or a fruity saison. Or a tangy farmhouse ale. Or...well you get the point: you may want to listen to this episode over a pint. Featuring ​Rob Hopkins - Founder of New Lion Brewery, Co-Initator of the Transition Town Movement Randy Mosher - Author of Tasting Beer: An Insider's Guide to the World's Greatest Drink Bart Watson - Chief Economist, Brewers Association Tom Stainer - Head of Communications, CAMRA Julie Prebble - Business Development Manager, Toast Ale Vanesa de Blas - Brewer, Temple Brew House Andrew Gilhespy - Grower at The Almond Thief Emy Mendoza - Umunhum Brewing Music by: ​Maude Gun Lanterns  Antwon Pele ​ Many thanks to Bethan Mure for the background/cover art. 

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0:00.0

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, You are listening to upstream upstream upstream a radio documentary

0:28.2

series that invites you to unlearn everything you thought you knew

0:32.1

about economics I'm Dela Duncan and I'm

0:35.4

Robert Raymond. Join us as we journey upstream to the heart of our economic system

0:41.0

and discovered cutting edge stories of game-changing solutions based on

0:45.8

connection, resilience and prosperity for all. Right now I'm standing outside of the New Lion Brewery here in Tautness, a small town in Devon County in the United Kingdom.

1:09.0

This is the birthplace of the Transition Town Movement, a grassroots initiative that has spread all over

1:15.9

the world.

1:17.2

Its aim is to increase community self-sufficiency by reducing our reliance on fossil fuels and mitigating the effects of climate change and economic

1:26.3

instability. We could spend the entire episode talking about the transition town movement,

1:32.1

but we're not here to talk about that.

1:34.4

We're here to talk about beer.

1:37.8

In this episode of Upstream, we will tell the story of this bubbly beverage

1:42.2

that has been with us since the dawn of civilization.

1:45.4

We'll explore its history from the earliest days all the way up to the modern craft beer explosion.

1:53.2

Along the way, we'll meet some of the folks

1:55.5

on the cutting edge of the brewing world,

1:57.8

from a brewery in London that makes beer out of bread

2:01.4

to the first cooperatively owned brewery in California. But first, let's go in and grab

2:07.7

a pint at New Lion.

2:09.7

Hello! Hello, how are you? I'm doing well. How are you? What are you? What do you have on tap today?

2:20.0

We have a record range of Pandit American Pale Ale, a session between main event and our

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