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Hello to our favorite listeners. This is Hank Smith. I am here with my splendid co-host, John by

the way. Hi John. Hi Hank. You can come to our website follow him.co, follow him.co and you can get

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tell your friends about it. John, I'm excited every week for follow him. But this particular week I

have a little bit of extra getting us for who is joining us this week. Yeah, me too. We've got

with us brother S Michael Wilcox and he, well I'll read his bio and then I'm going to add, I'm going

to add an addendum. But brother S Michael Wilcox received his PhD from the University of Colorado

and talked for many years at the LDS Institute of Religion adjacent to the University of Utah.

He has spoken to packed crowds at BYU Education Week has hosted tours to the Holy Land and the

Church history sites. He's served in a variety of callings including his bishop and a counselor

in a stake presidency. He has written many articles and books including House of Glory, sunset,

10 great souls I want to meet in heaven and finding hope. He and his late wife Laurie are the parents

of five children and he's written so many others. I love one called Don't Leap with the Sheep. I love

the way brother Wilcox just doesn't teach the scriptures but teaches what the scriptures teach

and he has helped me so much. I loved going to time out for women not so I could talk so that I could

listen to brother Wilcox's talks and thank you for your influence on me personally and on so

many and welcome to follow him today. Well, thank you. I'm ready happy to be here. I can't think of

anyone who has had as much of an impact on my own teaching. I guess teenagers would say we're

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