Coming up in this episode on Follow Hip.

For me, as a college student that was really meaningful because I saw everybody around me having these grand ideas, you know, the only way to be successful in life is if you're a doctor or a lawyer, or I'm going to start a tech company and I'm going to change the world.

Me, little history major, I'm like, I'm going to go take my Shakespeare

comedy class now. I don't know. I felt such weight and pressure and guilt because I wasn't

interested in that same track. Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Follow Him.

My name is Hank Smith.

I am your host.

I'm here with my faithful, just, and wise co-host.

John, by the way, John, that's Section 51, verse 19.

Whoso is found a faithful, just, and wise wise steward which also means co-host shall enter into the

joy of his lord and shall inherit eternal life how do you feel i feel oh out of three but let's keep

going these are aspirations right yeah one day we're going to compile a list of all these adjectives for you.

You can look at them every day.

Here's your bar.

John, Emily Utt comes highly recommended by the other historians who work for the church.

I've had many say, you haven't had Emily Ut on your podcast yet?

What are you doing? Make sure you get Emily. We are in sections 51 through 57 today. John, when you think of the move to Kirtland and all that happens there, we're there for seven years, eight years almost, what do you think of when you think of Kurtland, Ohio? I think of Carl Anderson. I think of America's sacred ground, this video that

BYU TV made. I think of Steve Young's t-shirt and how a Super Bowl MVP can move a road,

which is a fascinating story.

Another list of difficulties for the Saints is, okay, move to the Ohio and as soon as they do,

okay, but actually Zion's going to be over there.

The back and forth of that, the difficulties in that.

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