Welcome to part two of this week's podcast.

Yeah, well, I just wanted to say that section 39 and 40, if you were to look at all the

doctrine of covenants, these are the only sections where they're back-to-back given to the

same man.

So you look and then as you look at it given to the same man, it's given to a man named

James Covell that if we were to look at the 135 individuals mentioned by name in the

doctrine of covenants, there were contemporaries with Joseph Smith.

He's the one man we know the least about.

And so you go, are you kidding me?

You know, here is the man.

He gets two sections in the doctrine of covenants.

We waffle on being able to say his birth and death.

We can't name who he's married to just so just even vital statistics.

And although the section says starts out in reduction, saying he was 40 years of Baptist

preacher, we've got other scholars that say, oh, no, no, I know for sure he is a Methodist.

And so what we've got is we've got one man who no doubt is will ultimately join the church

after section 39 as we read section 40, but we really can't tell much about him.

But what we do know is that he sure knows a lot about Christ, right?

I think I'd hate to do a Bible bash with him.

I think he could tell us about Bethlehem, Garden Tomb.

I mean, he's got it down.

But in reality, I think section 39 and 40 are probably the, the saddest sections in the

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