Coming up in this episode on Follow Him.

Brigham looked up to Joseph, admired Joseph, followed Joseph.

Brigham's first reaction is that he cannot comprehend that Joseph could be taken or what would happen.

Then his third reaction is that quiet reassurance of the Holy Spirit that comes into his heart and mind, and he realizes,

no, wait a minute, we have everything that we need. Joseph gave us the keys, the authority.

Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Follow Him. My name is Sink Smith, and I am your host. I'm here with my co-host, John, by the way, whose words tend to edify.

John, that is section 136. We're getting towards the end of the doctrine covenants here. That's verse 24. Let your words tend to edifying one another. And John, I've known you for a long time. Whenever you're interacting with someone, I can see it. You want to build them. You want to edify. I learned her from you, Hank. Thank you. And your wonderful wife, Kim, is not a wit behind you. She is a builder. She's the best.

What is it, Mark Twain said? I can live for a few months on a good compliment. You both are that way.

John, we are very blessed today. We have Dr. Keith Erickson joining us. Dr. Erickson, Keith, welcome.

Thank you. I'm so glad to be here. This is an honor. I've listened to quite a bit of what you've done. I've seen you on the face-to-face videos with the church. John and I, we're going to try not to be nervous here. Well, me too. It's exciting to be here. This is going to be fun. We're going to start with a difficult section today. Section 135. It's the martyrdom

of Joseph Smith and his brother Hiram. We're also going to look at Section 136, Brigham Young,

and the Trek West. That's a lot. John, what comes to mind? What have you been thinking about as we've

been preparing? I think about Carthage jail a lot.

You know how you go to a place and a song runs through your mind?

There's a heaviness there, but I also hear myself singing inside,

Millions shall know Brother Joseph again.

How that has come true.

Here we are sitting here today almost a couple of hundred years later,

and we're talking about that. Wow, here we are. And everything that I hold dear comes from the

Lord through his church, restored through his prophet. Well, that's what I think about.

I was thinking about Section 136, John. Sometimes we get in our head, Keith can probably speak to this, that these people knew this was going to work out.

Oh, yeah, we got to move to the Salt Lake Valley now.

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